never a jw

Joined

• started 57 topics
• posted 2,278 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by never a jw

• 
  22

  Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  putting it simply, kingdom halls are no longer the property of a local group of the folks that paid for and constructed it.

  the lender, the watchtower society, now says that once a mortgage is satisfied, that congregation must then declare a resolution which says it will continue to make payments, usually equal to the amount they were paying on the mortgage.

  and they must do so indefinitely.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Amen to that!
  
• 
  41

  I don't think I will be able to escape the JWs ...

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i will get a lot of backslash on this forum for saying this, but as it looks like, i won't ever be able to escape the jws.

  i have been a born in, third generation jw and awoken in one way or another (i joined this forum 15 years ago) for a very long time.

  but i have adapted to the jw lifestyle to a point where it does not bother me anymore.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  You are fine, the "worldly" world is not for everyone. The "worldly" world is a lot more fun, with way more choices, from the worst to the very best. The world offers the opportunity to get much greater sense of accomplishment. You can be selfish and give yourself every material joy available to you without a sense of guilt, or you can do great acts of philanthropy and attain maximum sense of fulfillment without the judgement of fundamentalists who expect only acts of worship to the leaders and mythological figures. The world also offers the opportunity to discover and learn the universe as is, not as we want it to be. Lastly, the spectrum of worldly girls is far larger than in a fundamentalist religion, but not everyone has the skills to get la creme dela creme. If you found your niche and is in your area of comfort, then enjoy it. Life is too short.

  One last comment: Given the state of affairs in the Watchtower, I think its "useful" life is not going to be longer than your own. Make some preparations for the imminent days of the Watchtower's decrepitude and obsolescence. Get your zealous girl while they last, and remember you have to be a ministerial servant to be worthy of a JW girl.
  
• 
  32

  Selloff Hinted At Assembly

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

  this statement has everyone talking.

  i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  If congregations are consolidated, then donations will shrink even more. Now, instead of two small monthly donations to Brooklyn (Warwick), you have one bigger donation that may not add up to the sum of the two smaller donations. People donate less when they know there's plenty of other heads to contribute.

  Yet another sign that they are not thinking about long term. The end maybe upon us!
  
• 
  114

  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Yes, they are christians, but they are JEHOVAHERS in a much bigger way. Most other forms of Christianity are big on Jesus and the Gospels, but care almost nothing about the childless God of the Old Testament, except when there's a prophecy about his future son. Most other Christians care about the God of the New Testament because he is the father of the big hero of Christianity, JESUS CHRIST. It's all in the name CHRISTIANITY.
  
• 
  9

  Double speak of the Watchtower

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry, this may have been covered ad nauseam before, but since it is blatant double speak of the watchtower, i felt it would be good to write a reminder of that.

  below is an extract where the watchtower makes an effort to point out to the royal commission that among their members there are professionals with higher education, such as doctors and lawyers.

  what they conveniently fail to mention is that the wt leadership repeatedly in writing and in approved public speeches discourages, even denigrate the pursuit of higher education.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  "At times, Jehovah’s Witnesses are the subject of misconceptions."

  What misconceptions???...

  that you are against higher education,

  that you are as a religious group one of the least educated,

  that you advise suicidal victims to pray more, don't fail Jehovah and don't listened to the taunter, instead of advising the victim to seek professional help,

  that you encourage homophobia,

  that you protect pedophiles and money more than children,

  that you promote a persecution complex among your members in order to distrust outsiders including government and media,

  that you tailor your Bible to your preconceived ideas.

  that you destroy families by prohibiting contact with those whose only "sin" is to use critical thinking skills and research
  

  No, those are misconceptions, those are facts that are proven by the evidence in your speeches, written material, policies, manuals, videos, books, assemblies' lectures.
  
• 
  30

  I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

  talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

  i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  If you fear trouble, then get rid of the evidence. Files get lost, tablets get stolen or damaged by spilled coffee, or people sit on them.
  
• 
  23

  The Debate Is Over...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.

  countless books have been written going into great detail.

  this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Who cares if Jesus existed. Can they prove that Jesus is divine and still exists?... Oh shoot, I forgot, the Bible says so. Never mind, I am out of challenging questions.
  
• 
  11

  Hello from Still Totally ADD

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted everyone who knows me to know i am alive and well.

  we just sold our house in pa and are about to buy a house on one acre just outside jamestown ny.

  our health has been good and we both have good part time jobs.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Wonderful success story. Thank you for sharing and thank you for trying to help others.
  
• 
  28

  Spanish Forum is being shut down

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.

  there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Simon,

  Who qualifies to be a moderator? Spanish is my first language, so if in the eyes of decision makers I can do a decent job, I volunteer for that job in my spare time.
  
• 
  9

  Double speak of the Watchtower

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry, this may have been covered ad nauseam before, but since it is blatant double speak of the watchtower, i felt it would be good to write a reminder of that.

  below is an extract where the watchtower makes an effort to point out to the royal commission that among their members there are professionals with higher education, such as doctors and lawyers.

  what they conveniently fail to mention is that the wt leadership repeatedly in writing and in approved public speeches discourages, even denigrate the pursuit of higher education.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  never a jw

  Sorry, this may have been covered ad nauseam before, but since it is blatant double speak of the Watchtower, I felt it would be good to write a reminder of that. Below is an extract where the Watchtower makes an effort to point out to the Royal Commission that among their members there are professionals with higher education, such as doctors and lawyers. What they conveniently fail to mention is that the WT leadership repeatedly in writing and in approved public speeches discourages, even denigrate the pursuit of higher education. Obviously they don't make any reference to research that points out that JW's are among the least educated and with the lowest income.

  Also, I find it so hypocritical that they tell the ARC that JW's seek help from qualified professionals in the areas of mental health. They failed to mention that their version of mental health professional is commonly a window washer whose professional knowledge is limited to tendentious interpretations of the Bible and is in complete submission to the Governing Body.
  

  "Based on their understanding of the Bible’s teachings, Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to respect the government and they do not isolate themselves from human society.1 As was pointed out during the public hearings of the Royal Commission, Jehovah’s Witnesses have as members, amongst others, lawyers, doctors, psychologists, policemen and policewomen, and members of many other occupations and callings.2 When needed, Jehovah’s Witnesses seek help from qualified professionals in the fields of law, medicine and mental health. Most Jehovah’s Witnesses have family members who belong to other religions or who are atheists....At times, Jehovah’s Witnesses are the subject of misconceptions. When examined objectively, such views are found to be distorted or untrue" (Submission on behalf of the WBTS of Australia to the Royal Commission, p 7,8)